Thabo Mbeki , the former president of South Africa in his latest letters has pointed out that US and UK, wanted so much to remove President Robert Mugabe. He has said to save Mugabe, South Africa had to send government minister Lindiwe Sisulu to tell them to back off.
There were others in the world, led particularly by the UK, who opposed our approach of encouraging the Zimbabweans to decide their future. These preferred regime change – the forcible removal of President Mugabe and his replacement by people approved by the UK and its allies,” wrote Mbeki.
“In the period preceding the 2002 Zimbabwe Elections, the UK and the US in particular were very keen to effect this regime change and failing which to impose various conditions to shorten the period of any Mugabe Presidency.
“Our then Minister of Intelligence, Lindiwe Sisulu, had to make a number of trips to London and Washington to engage the UK and US governments on their plans for Zimbabwe, with strict instructions from our government to resist all plans to impose anything on the people of Zimbabwe, including by military means.”
Mbeki said the plans to overthrow Mugabe were not hearsay, but came “directly from what they communicated to a representative of our government”.
The startling revelations go on to say that on November 11, 2007, the UK’s Independent on Sunday reported that during its interview of Lord Guthrie, former Chief of Defence Staff of the UK armed forces, it learnt that “astonishingly, the subjects discussed [with Prime Minister Tony Blair] included invading Zimbabwe”. Guthrie had reportedly warned against it.
According to John Kampfner in his book Blair’s Wars, the former British prime minister once told Claire Short that “if it were down to me, I’d do Zimbabwe as well – that is send troops”.
Mbeki said that over the years Zapu, Zanu and, later, Zanu-PF saw it as part of their responsibility to contribute to the victory of South Africa’s struggle against apartheid and to rebuild the country. The ANC felt the same about removing colonialism in Zimbabwe and helping reconstruct that country.
“Throughout these years we defended the right of the people of Zimbabwe to determine their destiny, including deciding on who should govern the country. This included resisting all efforts to impose other people’s solutions on Zimbabwe, which, if this had succeeded, would have served as a precursor for a similar intervention in our country!”
Mbeki concluded by saying there was a conscious decision taken to avoid South Africa acting as the “new home-grown African imperial power”
When he was president, Mbeki rarely took the nation or the media into his confidence on some of the details in his letters. He was regularly heavily criticised over South Africa’s siding with Mugabe, whose land reforms were considered repugnant by many. Mbeki was also criticised for appearing to turn a blind eye to allegations of voting irregularities. – State Media
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Mbeki’s moral ethics are corrupted to a Fault.Even his own brother has publicly criticized his Sugar Coating ways of dealing with a tyrant like Mugabe.Right now with the ongoing destruction of Zim by a faction ridden Zanu PF,Mbeki now looks foolish as he is the main man who gave a lifeline to a defeated Zanu PF in 2008 and his GNU Project was meant to keep the loser in Power through the back door.His Policy on Zimbabwe pretty much ruined his Legacy as he now finds himself on wrong side of History.So these Lame letters won’t do much to clean up the massive egg on his face.Even his own brother will Testify to this.
This Mbeki idiot is embarrased that the Party he gave a lifeline in 2008 is now is self destructive mode.His own brother warned him in 2008 against batting for Mugabe saying Mugabe was a threat to his people and eventually his own Party will start to eat each other.Now events of the past 2 years in Faction ridden Zanu PF have now vindicated his brother and Mbeki now looks stupid and short sighted.He now finds himself at wrong side of History as his support for Matibili has turned Zim into a Failed State,so now he starts releasing Lame letters to save face from his dismal Policies on Zimbabwe crisis.The guy has a massive Egg on his face,and continuing to blame Blair for it,only saves to prove how desperate his defensive mechanism has become.Mbeki sir,you were Never a Visionary and your short sightedness is as bad as Ronald Reagan…….Fuck outta here.
This Mbeki idiot is embarrased that the Party he gave a lifeline in 2008 is now is self destructive mode.His own brother warned him in 2008 against batting for Mugabe saying Mugabe was a threat to his people and eventually his own Party will start to eat each other.Now events of the past 2 years in Faction ridden Zanu PF have now vindicated his brother and Mbeki now looks stupid and short sighted.He now finds himself at wrong side of History as his support for Matibili has turned Zim into a Failed State,so now he starts releasing Lame letters to save face from his dismal Policies on Zimbabwe crisis.The guy has a massive Egg on his face,and continuing to blame Blair for it,only saves to prove how desperate his defensive mechanism has become.Mbeki sir,you were Never a Visionary and your short sightedness is as bad as Ronald Reagan…….Fuck outta here.
Thabo Mbeki fails to mention so many pertinent issues or events in his Zim narrative in order to depict the West as the worst offender in Zimbabwe. As much as the West could have had its own agendas; Mugabe himself definitely had is own evil agendas of political survival by hook or crook.
How do you argue that Zimbabweans must be left to choose their own leaders, yet you are busy covering up for one of the contestants to the leadership of the country? That is hypocracy of the highest order.
What Mbeki did was to tell the West to stay out of Zim whilst he decided on behalf of the Zimbabweans that Mugabe would be their President. He doesn’t mention anything about Gukurahundi; he says nothing about the time he himself was thrown into prison by Mugabe; he ignores the election rigging from 2002 to date; his whole story about ANC ZANU relations is absolutely false.
If truth be told, ZANU PF was a breakaway party from the main party ZAPU; just as the PAC was also a breakaway party from the main party the ANC in South Africa. The difference between the two scenarios is that in Zim, Shona tribal dominance worked in favour of ZANU the breakaway party. That is why it came to power; whilst in South Africa, the PAC lacked that same tribal gravitas in South Africa, hence it could not upstage its mother body the ANC.
The ANC was always friends with ZAPU, whilst the two breakaway parties, PAC and ZANU were friends. Mugabe never liked the ANC from time immemorial, but had no choice but to live with the reality they had become the ruling party in South Africa.
This explains why he had so many fights with Nelson Mandela – it was all about old grudges coupled with the big ego of refusing to be overshadowed by the towering moral image of Nelson Mandela; both in the Frontline States and internationally. Again, we all know Mugabe never forgives or forgets – he is by nature a very vindictive man.
Thabo Mbeki changed tune when he came to power and went overboard in accommodating Mugabe’s nonsense just to keep the peace. In the end, the Zimbabweans in general had to pay the price. Its unfortunate that he still refuses to take responsibility for Zim’s situation and instead chooses to continue covering for the Gukurahundi dictator!!
Thabo Mbeki fails to mention so many pertinent issues or events in his Zim narrative in order to depict the West as the worst offender in Zimbabwe. As much as the West could have had its own agendas; Mugabe himself definitely had is own evil agendas of political survival by hook or crook.
How do you argue that Zimbabweans must be left to choose their own leaders, yet you are busy covering up for one of the contestants to the leadership of the country? That is hypocracy of the highest order.
What Mbeki did was to tell the West to stay out of Zim whilst he decided on behalf of the Zimbabweans that Mugabe would be their President. He doesn’t mention anything about Gukurahundi; he says nothing about the time he himself was thrown into prison by Mugabe; he ignores the election rigging from 2002 to date; his whole story about ANC ZANU relations is absolutely false.
If truth be told, ZANU PF was a breakaway party from the main party ZAPU; just as the PAC was also a breakaway party from the main party the ANC in South Africa. The difference between the two scenarios is that in Zim, Shona tribal dominance worked in favour of ZANU the breakaway party. That is why it came to power; whilst in South Africa, the PAC lacked that same tribal gravitas in South Africa, hence it could not upstage its mother body the ANC.
The ANC was always friends with ZAPU, whilst the two breakaway parties, PAC and ZANU were friends. Mugabe never liked the ANC from time immemorial, but had no choice but to live with the reality they had become the ruling party in South Africa.
This explains why he had so many fights with Nelson Mandela – it was all about old grudges coupled with the big ego of refusing to be overshadowed by the towering moral image of Nelson Mandela; both in the Frontline States and internationally. Again, we all know Mugabe never forgives or forgets – he is by nature a very vindictive man.
Thabo Mbeki changed tune when he came to power and went overboard in accommodating Mugabe’s nonsense just to keep the peace. In the end, the Zimbabweans in general had to pay the price. Its unfortunate that he still refuses to take responsibility for Zim’s situation and instead chooses to continue covering for the Gukurahundi dictator!!
And Zimbabwe would have been a better place.Yes UK and USA care about Zimbos more than the MALAWIAN and mbeku
And Zimbabwe would have been a better place.Yes UK and USA care about Zimbos more than the MALAWIAN and mbeku
What a sell-out Mbeki Zimbabwe will have been sorted out. Did you ask Zimbabweans what they wanted. Why did you declare elections free and fair when people were killed . Why did you oppose the release of the report on Zimbabwe elections for over 5 years. You supported the Old club of failed Dictators. Shut and Stop thinking for ithers-a failed President hence Zuma had to take you out. Rubbish.
What a sell-out Mbeki Zimbabwe will have been sorted out. Did you ask Zimbabweans what they wanted. Why did you declare elections free and fair when people were killed . Why did you oppose the release of the report on Zimbabwe elections for over 5 years. You supported the Old club of failed Dictators. Shut and Stop thinking for ithers-a failed President hence Zuma had to take you out. Rubbish.