20 Replies to “” All Shona Gukurahundis”- Mzila Forms Regional Party”

1. I hope a day will come when all Zimbabweans will express their views and emotions freely. I feel you are very loaded and there could be many like you.

2. It’s unfortunate that when a seemingly majority view becomes all pervading, the minorities always become victims, even if they may be innocent. Well that’s natural – the majority rules, as they say. Likewise, the more dominant anti Ndebele sentiments will unfortunately reflect on Shonas in general. One doesnt need a survey for this.
   I lived in the Rhodesian era; I lived with the Shona then; most of them were not like what they became post 1980. In Matebeleland virtually every Shona spoke Ndebele. Today virtually every Shona in Mthwakazi claims “andinzwi chiNdebere”; even after living there for the past 10 or 15 years.
   Since the coming to power of ZANU PF and Mugabe in 1980, the view that Zim is a Shona country has taken root. In the 1980s, it was even promoted by Mugabe himself and to date, for many Shonas when everything fails in defending Shona tribalism in Zim, they have no hesitation to resort to their now all too familiar ” dzokerayi” or “go back to Zululand” or “cross the Limpopo” mantras.
   The history taught in Schools to our children is so distorted, as it only emphasises the coming of King Mzilikazi, the tribal wars and the coming of the whites. The Shona invasions of Southern Africa as part of Bantu migration to the South are glossed over. Their constant invasions if each other Chiefs lands are passed over. Shonas are depicted as peaceful agriculturalists who were invaded by outsiders. Matebeleland is said to have been Guruswa that was part of their land extending into Botswana.
   Too much emphasis is placed the so-called Great Zimbabwe with the distorted Shona connection. Yet nobody in history was everv known as a Shona. The Vendas and the Mapumbumbwe, which are clearly linked to Great Zimbabwe are passed over.
   The Liberation struggle history is all about Mugabe, ZANU PF, ZANLA and Shona. Even in ZANU itself, only the Shona language was spoken. All its structures were named in Shona.
   Today, government programmes are all named in Shona and virtually every official even in opposition politics speaks to all and sundry in Shona. But still they expect national unity and pulling together in one direction.
   In practice in Zim all other tribes, languages, races be they Coloured, Indian or whites are non existent except Shona and the Shonas. Forget what the Constitution says because they never respect the Constitution.
   This is the environment Mugabe created that has natured the Shona child since 1980. Now who is surprised at the now engrained Shona tribalism and anti Ndebele sentiments in Zim today. Tswangirayi has also just confirmed it in his new appointments in his MDC T. The Shona voting patterns confirm it. I can go on and on.
   For all of us not to keep looking back but unite and move forward as a nation like you are urging, the ball is in the courts of the Shona,; not Matebeleland, not whites, not Coloured or Indians!!

3. I am not sure whether you conducted research to confirm that all shonas say ngunis are not Zimbabweans. I think your reasoning is blurred by emotions. Granted there are reasons why you might be so emotional but I think you are being unfair to a lot of other shonas that embrace diversity. In Manicaland where I come from my village shares a boundary with an area largely inhabited by people of nguni origin. It is administered by chief Gwebu. You find the Malingas, Mtimukhulus, Dhlomos, etc. We were told they occupied the area during the Ndebele raids in the mid 1850s. Up to today, those people proudly speak their language. We live peacefully as neighbours. We have taught each other a lot as ndebeles and shonas. Infact, I learnt ndebele/zulu from my age mates from the Gwebu boys as we played together. I agree with you that the Khoi and Saan are the indigenous people of this continent. Everyone else is a colonialist. But you and I are Zimbabweans, including the whites, indians, chinese, etc that came after our ancestors conquered the Khoi and Saan. You and I know our common enemy and I suggest we focus on that. The common enemy rejoices and buys time as we hold each other’s throats. Zimbabwe needs a new beginning and as citizens we need to put all differences aside and work for its rebirth. I doubt we will move forward if we continue to refer to the past sins committed by our ancestors and some misguided contemporary leaders. Let us use our intellectual and physical energy to rebuild Zimbabwe.

4. But you know that these very Shonas you are talking about are the very people who believe people of Matebeleland do not belong to Zimbabwe, especially the Nguni. They only raise this Bantu migration issue the moment you tell them they come from Burundi. The bottom line is that Southern Africa belongs to the Khoisan. Anyone else is therefore a foreigner. It does not matter how long they have been on the land. Shonas stole Khoisan land, established their empires, Monomotapa etc; which self-destructed as we have come to expect of everything and anytrhing by the Shona. The Nguni came in, grabbed the same stolen Khoisan land from the Shona and established Mthwakazi. The whites came, grabbed the Khoisan land from both Ngunis and Shonas and established Rhodesia. So why do Shonas behave as if they are the legitimate owners of our country. In fact, that name “Zimbabwe” itself is a misnomer. We should come up with a Khoisan name and rename the country appropriately to reflect the indeginous people of our nation. That name “Zimbabwe” is what made the Shonas so arrogant.

5. But you know that these very Shonas you are talking about are the very people who believe people of Matebeleland do not belong to Zimbabwe, especially the Nguni. They only raise this Bantu migration issue the moment you tell them they come from Burundi. The bottom line is that Southern Africa belongs to the Khoisan. Anyone else is therefore a foreigner. It does not matter how long they have been on the land. Shonas stole Khoisan land, established their empires, Monomotapa etc; which self-destructed as we have come to expect of everything and anytrhing by the Shona. The Nguni came in, grabbed the same stolen Khoisan land from the Shona and established Mthwakazi. The whites came, grabbed the Khoisan land from both Ngunis and Shonas and established Rhodesia. So why do Shonas behave as if they are the legitimate owners of our country. In fact, that name “Zimbabwe” itself is a misnomer. We should come up with a Khoisan name and rename the country appropriately to reflect the indeginous people of our nation. That name “Zimbabwe” is what made the Shonas so arrogant.

6. I respect your views and given an opportunity, I will defend your right to express them. Yes, Shona is connected to Swahili. My ancestor, who is one of the founding fathers of Zimbabwe, came from east Africa thousands of years ago. I still use his surname. However, you need to know that all bantus are one and we all entered the continent through Tanganyika, present day Tanzania. A group that evolved into ngunis settled in present day DRC. Some of them moved down to present day South Africa where they eventually evolved into ngunis, Zulus, Xhosas, Ndebeles and Swatis. As a result of Mfecane which peaked in the 1830s some of them moved up to the north, retracing the footsteps of their ancestors. Zwangendaba proceeded to east Africa and settled in Tanzania. In Malawi there is a tribe that now calls itself vaNgoni. They are actually Ngunis whose language was diluted by local languages. To confirm that Ngunis originate from Swahili as well, you need to listen to Lingala, a Swahili dialect that is spoken in DRC. There are too many words in Lingala which sound very Zulu. I have had an opportunity to travel extensively in the SADC region and took a keen interest in African languages. We now have so many dialects of Swahili but they all sound similar. You may not like it my brother/sister/son/daughter but there are so many Shona words which are in isiZulu/isiNdebele. I speak both Ndebele and Zulu fortunately. Zulu is sooo close to Shona. A Shona who has the correct attitude will never struggle to learn Zulu. The opportunity that God gave me to travel opened the eyes of my mind. I now see every African as my kinsman. I will never be tribalistic because the continent has dialects of Swahili and not unique languages. You hear Shona, Zulu, Ndebele, Swati, etc in Setswana, Sotho, Pedi, Venda, Shangaan, etc. You just need an open mind to get this. I marvel and love my Africa and its children.

7. I respect your views and given an opportunity, I will defend your right to express them. Yes, Shona is connected to Swahili. My ancestor, who is one of the founding fathers of Zimbabwe, came from east Africa thousands of years ago. I still use his surname. However, you need to know that all bantus are one and we all entered the continent through Tanganyika, present day Tanzania. A group that evolved into ngunis settled in present day DRC. Some of them moved down to present day South Africa where they eventually evolved into ngunis, Zulus, Xhosas, Ndebeles and Swatis. As a result of Mfecane which peaked in the 1830s some of them moved up to the north, retracing the footsteps of their ancestors. Zwangendaba proceeded to east Africa and settled in Tanzania. In Malawi there is a tribe that now calls itself vaNgoni. They are actually Ngunis whose language was diluted by local languages. To confirm that Ngunis originate from Swahili as well, you need to listen to Lingala, a Swahili dialect that is spoken in DRC. There are too many words in Lingala which sound very Zulu. I have had an opportunity to travel extensively in the SADC region and took a keen interest in African languages. We now have so many dialects of Swahili but they all sound similar. You may not like it my brother/sister/son/daughter but there are so many Shona words which are in isiZulu/isiNdebele. I speak both Ndebele and Zulu fortunately. Zulu is sooo close to Shona. A Shona who has the correct attitude will never struggle to learn Zulu. The opportunity that God gave me to travel opened the eyes of my mind. I now see every African as my kinsman. I will never be tribalistic because the continent has dialects of Swahili and not unique languages. You hear Shona, Zulu, Ndebele, Swati, etc in Setswana, Sotho, Pedi, Venda, Shangaan, etc. You just need an open mind to get this. I marvel and love my Africa and its children.

8. Who has “roots” in Zimbabwe other than the Khoisan? Your roots are in Burundi. That’s why your language sounds close to Swahili.

9. Well if you consider yourself to fall within the bracket of “most Shonas”; then indeed you are right. You deserve Mugabe. You are responsible for the regional and seccession politics in Zim. If in your hearts of hearts you don’t share the views and beliefs of the “most” then, why worry?

10. today I learnt I am an evil shona that deserves Mugabe. What should i do to atone for the sins of my fellow shona.

11. today I learnt I am an evil shona that deserves Mugabe. What should i do to atone for the sins of my fellow shona.

12. I will drink from your cup. You are spot on.

13. Mzila is simply exercising his constitutional right. He did not violate any laws of the country. He is presenting an alternative to a plethora of parties in Zim. Zanu Ndonga is/was a regional party and people did not have sleepless nights about that .Leave the electorate to judge him. If he has a case, he will get supporters. We need to develop a culture of tolerance in Zim. There is richness in diversity. Kalangas are some of the people that have lived in Zimbabwe for a very long time. Together with some of the Shonas who lived in southern Zimbabwe, they were assimilated into the Ndebele culture when the Ngunis arrived around 1838. They are very indigenous.

14. It’s Mzila’s democratic right. You have to learn to respect democracy. Stop talking democracy only in terms of what suits you. Democracy is about the freedom to associate or not to associate; to stand for and voice out one’s opinions and beliefs in how they would want to be governed. To support whatever policies they believe in.
    Nobody has a God given right to govern Zim. It’s up to the electorate to decide whether they share the same views with Mzila and vote for him. I for one don’t share his views but I respect his right to hold and express them. I believe in national politics in a devolved system of government.
    The problem we are facing in Zimbabwe, which I believe is what leads to people like Mzila opting for regional politics and others on the other extreme opting for secession is that virtually all Shona led parties that claim to be national are tribalistic. The most recent and glaring example is that of the MDC-T on the way they have treated Thoko Khuphe.
    All Tswangirayi’s Shona tribalists supporters are out in full force, falling over each other trying to rationalize and justify a patently tribalistic decision on the part of their party. Zim is a shit country I tell you. Most Shonas deserve Mugabe. They are no different from him – like him most of them are evil!!

15. This is cheap journalism. If this report is to be taken seriously, can the reporter tell us how Moses Mzila could be in South Africa to form a political party and be at his church in Bulawayo last Saturday and be seen at Mbokodo on the Plumtree Road on Sunday. We must be careful not to be misled by these faceless reporters.

16. He is forming a party in SA because he knows that he does not have his roots here in Zimbabwe. He can go and hang a pathetic regionalist who is bent on causing anarchy. The only difference between him and Mugabe is that he has not tasted power otherwise they are two sides of the same coin.

17. asazi yenzani sibone, forming a party in SA? why not in zim?

18. asazi yenzani sibone, forming a party in SA? why not in zim?

19. A Regional Party is better that a bash of dissidents in ZANU-PF……………..who is not having a regional Party?……………Munangagwa Midlands….Mugabe Zvimba…..etc:……..

20. A Regional Party is better that a bash of dissidents in ZANU-PF……………..who is not having a regional Party?……………Munangagwa Midlands….Mugabe Zvimba…..etc:……..

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