By Chrispen Tabvura| All is set for former Minister of National Healing in Zimbabwe’s GNU, Moses Mzila Ndlovu’s new regional party.
Memos seen by ZimEye.com show plans are now at an advanced stage in the prepare for Ndlovu’s party.
Ndlovu accuses all Shona speaking people, for participating in the infamous Gukurahundi massacre of the 1980s, however perpetrated by the notorious mass murderer, Enos Nkala (a Ndebele) together with his boss, Robert Mugabe.
One email written to members reads, “ Dear Dinuzulu Mbikokayise Macaphulana
I contact you on behalf of a group that is working on the formation of a Regional Party which will focus its efforts at contesting and winning elections in Matebeleland. The group’s interim leader is Moses Mzila-Ndlovu.
We would like to build up a strong, well-informed and expert team of technical advisers. Having followed you for some time now, I am convinced you’re one of the sharpest political minds that we have in the region.
Our aim is to fight, among other things, for the following: implementation of devolution of power, operationalization of the NPRC, decolonization, land restitution which should see land restored to our people, preservation of our cultures and languages, and most importantly, access to job and economic opportunities by our people in their own region.
I would like to invite you to think about this project and if you may want to be part of it and how you can participate.
Let me clarify that it is still at the early stages, with the first deliverable we have completed now being consultation with various political and civic groupings in the region. The response has been very positive and encouraging, with many stating that they believe this is the right way to go.
We also note that a regional party is actually a novel idea in the country, novel in the sense of actual operationalization. Many have toyed with it but not really pursued it to the point of winning and/or losing elections.
As such we believe that it hasn’t really been tasted, and lack of such a regionally focused party has deprived our people of an option to reassert themselves politically and realize their economic dreams.
It will be a huge honor to have you become part of this what we believe to be a noble, just and righteous project.
Best regards,
Ndzimu-unami Emmanuel Moyo”
In a recent meeting, Mzila Ndlovu emotionally accused all Shonas, of involvement in killing Ndebeles while addressing guests at the National Transitional Justice Working Group Zimbabwe in Bulawayo.
The Gukurahundi massacres were masterminded by Enos Nkala (a Ndebele) on then Prime Minister Robert Mugabe’s instructions.
But Ndlovu charged saying, “I would like this to be known that, all Shona speaking people are accomplices of the Gukurahundi massacre that killed more than 20 000 people of Matabeleland in the 80s. To date, some of our Shona colleagues are quiet about the genocide and opt to keep it silent, while our hearts are bleeding as victims,” he said.
He also went on to explain why in his view his attacks on Shonas are justified. “I was arrested several times while on duty as national healing minister, and again our Shona friends did not intervene,” he said.
He continued, “In 1984 my relative was tied to a tree in Plumtree and his wife was raped by Shona speaking red beret soldiers who said in Shona, ‘tinoda kukuratidza kuti mushona anoberekwa sei,’ meaning – we would like to show you how Shonas are pro-created.
“The rape resulted in a son who is now an adult, and we do not even know the real father as the ten raped the woman,” he said emotionally.
“Also in Lupane, in 1985, teachers were buried alive at their schools, and there are bones which are now protruding at the corner of a class room in that mass grave. Schools were closed when teachers fled to the neighbouring SA for safety, resulting in many of Matabeleland children’s education nose diving.
“Today statistics of pass rates in this region is a reflection of the Gukurahundi massacres that scared away a number of Ndebele speaking teachers to other countries where they are living in squalor. To my disappointment, the perpetrator is still in power and is not even willing to heal the wounds of the victims of his cruelty,” he charged.
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We came a long way with the struggle. Zapu led by Joshua Nkomo was non tribal. It had people from all walks of life. I am not here to apologize for Mugabe or to rationalize what he does. What l don’t agree with you is where Moses says every Shona is guilty of Gukurahundi. At the same time we suffered persecution. We lost jobs, properties, savings and our houses were bombed. This is history and this happened. Mugabe is not representative of all Shona people. Why is it that the majority don’t like him. I still believe he is misguided and hell bent on dividing the people. You have every right to believe what you believe but l will still challenge that notion of every Shona being liable for the Gukurahundi, that’s just not true. I rest my case.
We came a long way with the struggle. Zapu led by Joshua Nkomo was non tribal. It had people from all walks of life. I am not here to apologize for Mugabe or to rationalize what he does. What l don’t agree with you is where Moses says every Shona is guilty of Gukurahundi. At the same time we suffered persecution. We lost jobs, properties, savings and our houses were bombed. This is history and this happened. Mugabe is not representative of all Shona people. Why is it that the majority don’t like him. I still believe he is misguided and hell bent on dividing the people. You have every right to believe what you believe but l will still challenge that notion of every Shona being liable for the Gukurahundi, that’s just not true. I rest my case.
Same to you son.
Enos Nkala is irrelevant. He was just doing the Shona bidding!
Enos Nkala is irrelevant. He was just doing the Shona bidding!
But Mugabe uses tribes in his agenda to retain power.
Why do you think he always speaks in Shona and never uses Ndebele, which he knows very well?
Why do you think he tribally insults only the people of Matebeleland – Ndebele, Khalanga etc but never does the same with Korekore, Zezuru, Manyika and Karangas?
In dealing with Mugabe, the Shona factor can never be avoided or discounted – its collateral damage, because he uses them.
They accept it when they are benefiting; but the moment he starts rouging them up – they come running back to Ndebele people begging for unity to remove him.
That’s the reality and confusion of Zimbabwean politics. It is you the Shonas in your tribalistic, self centred confusion who have given him the ammunition. Moses Mzila Ndlovu is very, very right in this case!!
But Mugabe uses tribes in his agenda to retain power.
Why do you think he always speaks in Shona and never uses Ndebele, which he knows very well?
Why do you think he tribally insults only the people of Matebeleland – Ndebele, Khalanga etc but never does the same with Korekore, Zezuru, Manyika and Karangas?
In dealing with Mugabe, the Shona factor can never be avoided or discounted – its collateral damage, because he uses them.
They accept it when they are benefiting; but the moment he starts rouging them up – they come running back to Ndebele people begging for unity to remove him.
That’s the reality and confusion of Zimbabwean politics. It is you the Shonas in your tribalistic, self centred confusion who have given him the ammunition. Moses Mzila Ndlovu is very, very right in this case!!
Are you responsible for registrations? The victims know it. So shut up!!
Shonas will never support you in your times of need. They only want to use you in their Shona agenda of removing Mugabe; the criminal they created. After installing another Shona Tswangirayi; they will kick you in the ass – like they were almost doing at the time of appointing Ministers to the GNU after 2008. Watch out!!
Shonas will never support you in your times of need. They only want to use you in their Shona agenda of removing Mugabe; the criminal they created. After installing another Shona Tswangirayi; they will kick you in the ass – like they were almost doing at the time of appointing Ministers to the GNU after 2008. Watch out!!
Yes indeed. Just like the Scottish people have their own parties!!
Yes indeed. Just like the Scottish people have their own parties!!
Wena unjani? Wenziwa yibutshona!!
Wena unjani? Wenziwa yibutshona!!
There were no people called Shonas. Shut up – when were you born. Show me a history that talks of Shonas in 1700? 1800? What does that word SHONA mean? can you explain it?
There were no people called Shonas. Shut up – when were you born. Show me a history that talks of Shonas in 1700? 1800? What does that word SHONA mean? can you explain it?
Go fcuk your mother bloody Shona!!
Go fcuk your mother bloody Shona!!
Shonas who are relatives have to conform or else!!
Shonas who are relatives have to conform or else!!
This is why we don’t want Shonas in Mthwakazi. Because of these Mugabe thoughts about Ndebele people and education that were planted into your tribalists minds as you grew up by Mugabe and his Shona Gukurahundis. Prepare for war – Mugabe is dying soon and geenerations and generations are coming. This whole club of terrorists will all be long dead and buried – but we will sort each other out come what may!!
This is why we don’t want Shonas in Mthwakazi. Because of these Mugabe thoughts about Ndebele people and education that were planted into your tribalists minds as you grew up by Mugabe and his Shona Gukurahundis. Prepare for war – Mugabe is dying soon and geenerations and generations are coming. This whole club of terrorists will all be long dead and buried – but we will sort each other out come what may!!
What dissident. There were no dissidents, idiot!
He is talking about his own region – Mthwakazi. Shonas have their own regions; why bother about them? It is them who keep bothering about us!!
What dissident. There were no dissidents, idiot!
He is talking about his own region – Mthwakazi. Shonas have their own regions; why bother about them? It is them who keep bothering about us!!
You can never choose leaders for us. We want and demand people like Mzila Ndlovu. Not your puppets – the Nkalas, John Nkomos, Obert Mpofus, Mark Dubes’etc of this world. Downright and outright sell outs who are/were after filling their own tummies – but are never bothered about their region or people. Look at how poor the Manyikas are – with sleepy , silly, selfish Mutasa, Makoni, Udenge etc. Look at Masvingo – dead!!
You can never choose leaders for us. We want and demand people like Mzila Ndlovu. Not your puppets – the Nkalas, John Nkomos, Obert Mpofus, Mark Dubes’etc of this world. Downright and outright sell outs who are/were after filling their own tummies – but are never bothered about their region or people. Look at how poor the Manyikas are – with sleepy , silly, selfish Mutasa, Makoni, Udenge etc. Look at Masvingo – dead!!
He thinks English is Shona. Shonas of Mugabe’s time are the worst English speakers. In the Rhodesia days many of them spoke good English and could write it too. This can be seen from the Charambas of this world. Products of proper Rhodesian education.
Today, many cant even write proper English because of their obsession with Shona whilst their hero Mugabe is busy teaching his own Shona children proper English – an International language and sending the to Dubai and Singapore.
Shonas are very sleepy and stupid. Mugabe misleads them by always speaking Shona – just to impress them. In the end they are not even internationally marketable because of this Shona of theirs!!
He thinks English is Shona. Shonas of Mugabe’s time are the worst English speakers. In the Rhodesia days many of them spoke good English and could write it too. This can be seen from the Charambas of this world. Products of proper Rhodesian education.
Today, many cant even write proper English because of their obsession with Shona whilst their hero Mugabe is busy teaching his own Shona children proper English – an International language and sending the to Dubai and Singapore.
Shonas are very sleepy and stupid. Mugabe misleads them by always speaking Shona – just to impress them. In the end they are not even internationally marketable because of this Shona of theirs!!
Please stop being a joke. Mzila is responding or reacting to a situation that developed in post independent Zimbabwe. This is what you should be addressing. There is nothing wrong with Mzila.
You cant create a situation of unfairness, then when the victims complain you raise dust – are you mad?
Why are many people complaining about Mugabe? Should they keep quiet? So its fine if Shonas complain; but not Mthwakazi?
Nobody ever talked of secession in Rhodesia – ever asked yourselves why? Even in the first 15 – 20 years of Zim independence – despite Gukurahundi, nobody ever spoke of separate States – you should find out why?
Its because Mthwakazi people had always hoped to be listened to by the powers that be. It was only when they realised they were dealing with the deaf and incorrigible tribalists that ideas of separating; regionalism etc started cropping up.
Even the black nationalists never wanted war when they started in the 1940s. They resorted to war because the white regimes refused to listen!!
Please stop being a joke. Mzila is responding or reacting to a situation that developed in post independent Zimbabwe. This is what you should be addressing. There is nothing wrong with Mzila.
You cant create a situation of unfairness, then when the victims complain you raise dust – are you mad?
Why are many people complaining about Mugabe? Should they keep quiet? So its fine if Shonas complain; but not Mthwakazi?
Nobody ever talked of secession in Rhodesia – ever asked yourselves why? Even in the first 15 – 20 years of Zim independence – despite Gukurahundi, nobody ever spoke of separate States – you should find out why?
Its because Mthwakazi people had always hoped to be listened to by the powers that be. It was only when they realised they were dealing with the deaf and incorrigible tribalists that ideas of separating; regionalism etc started cropping up.
Even the black nationalists never wanted war when they started in the 1940s. They resorted to war because the white regimes refused to listen!!
Rubbish – besides I doubt you even know what you mean by a Ndebele. That was the order of the day and you were defeated. No tribes settled anywhere without fighting other tribes. Recorded History only started with white Colonialism. So it doesn’t mean that, because there isn’t anything recorded about Shona tribal wars, then it means there were none.
That is utter uneducated nonsense. Besides there was no such a thing as a Shona in those epochs – though most of you love to pretend there was. If you have to use this as a counter argument against Gukurahundi – then it means practically every African or African tribe is guilty of tribal wars – unfortunately they were never recorded. Then how do you proceed from there? Stop comparing apples with oranges – this is an apples and apples comparison period; and there is no apples to apples comparison in modern day Zimbabwe that can match Gukurahundi – nothing!!
In those donkey years there were no modern courts; no borders; no Guns; Military Vehicles; no Helicopters or Military Helicopters; no geographic Maps; no formal Governments – jus open plains all over Africa with a nomadic people moving up and down settling here and there.
All over Africa, tribes fought each other and the defeated got incorporated – it also happened in Europe – that is how European borders were drawn. This is not about right or wrong – societies were still primitive then – we cant do anything about that. So, get lost on that one. There simply isn’t any comparison!!
Rubbish – besides I doubt you even know what you mean by a Ndebele. That was the order of the day and you were defeated. No tribes settled anywhere without fighting other tribes. Recorded History only started with white Colonialism. So it doesn’t mean that, because there isn’t anything recorded about Shona tribal wars, then it means there were none.
That is utter uneducated nonsense. Besides there was no such a thing as a Shona in those epochs – though most of you love to pretend there was. If you have to use this as a counter argument against Gukurahundi – then it means practically every African or African tribe is guilty of tribal wars – unfortunately they were never recorded. Then how do you proceed from there? Stop comparing apples with oranges – this is an apples and apples comparison period; and there is no apples to apples comparison in modern day Zimbabwe that can match Gukurahundi – nothing!!
In those donkey years there were no modern courts; no borders; no Guns; Military Vehicles; no Helicopters or Military Helicopters; no geographic Maps; no formal Governments – jus open plains all over Africa with a nomadic people moving up and down settling here and there.
All over Africa, tribes fought each other and the defeated got incorporated – it also happened in Europe – that is how European borders were drawn. This is not about right or wrong – societies were still primitive then – we cant do anything about that. So, get lost on that one. There simply isn’t any comparison!!
Mzila is right. The only solution to the tribal question in the land between the two rivers is war; war between Mthwakazi and the Shona. We must settle the issue once and for all and lets all stop this sweetie sweetie nonsense about unity. In 1923, the British forced us to club together with the Shonas under Rhodesia. Shonas had long sold out their own country to the Colonialists, after they allowed the whites from the Cape to fly their Flag at the Salisbury Kopjie to mark their new Capital. That is their own fault. In fact, it is them who made it easy for these same white Colonialists to then invade Mthwakazi leading to the end of King Lobhengula’s reign. Today, they are lying to young generations about King Lobhengula selling the country; amid such rubbish about mirrors and sugar. We are sick and tired of Shona nonsense. Mzila is right!. Lets not hear any nonsense about Shona land – strictly speaking Shonas have no land in Southern Africa; like every other Bantu speaking people. They were conquered and must accept – just as the San that they conquered earlier accepted their fate!!
So every Ndebele was an armed dissident, according to this idiot.
So every Ndebele was an armed dissident, according to this idiot.
Thus an act of desperation from this fellow citizen. I hope he will apologize to for trying to marginalise people. There is only one gvt University the whole of Masvingo province which started recently in 2004. The Karanga people never complained about anything. Ndebeles currently have got 2 state Universities in their region but are still feeling that they are marginalised. Come on guyz its time for you teach your people to love and know the importance of going to school. Ndlovu people are not even Ndebeles but can speak Ndebele.
Moses I think is CIO operative who just want to cause confusion amongst the people of Matebeleland. Again there is no Ndebele name called Moyo thus a lie and fooling of people.
Also remind him Enos Nkala was a king pin during Gukurahundi. Was he Shona?
Also remind him Enos Nkala was a king pin during Gukurahundi. Was he Shona?
Has anyone been denied a place at these institutions because they are Ndebele? Why do you want special treatment? Compete for places like anyone else. You wanted to be admitted without the acceptable O’ or A’ level passes at those institutions? Grow up you imbecile. You sound very like your Zulu brothers in South Africa who say foreigners take their jobs when the only qualification they have is a birth certificate. While you make noise like a rabid dog other clever Ndebeles are going to school to improve their education so as to compete on the job market with everyone whether Shona, Ndebele, Ndau or what.
Has anyone been denied a place at these institutions because they are Ndebele? Why do you want special treatment? Compete for places like anyone else. You wanted to be admitted without the acceptable O’ or A’ level passes at those institutions? Grow up you imbecile. You sound very like your Zulu brothers in South Africa who say foreigners take their jobs when the only qualification they have is a birth certificate. While you make noise like a rabid dog other clever Ndebeles are going to school to improve their education so as to compete on the job market with everyone whether Shona, Ndebele, Ndau or what.
NAME THE PARTY:MATABELELAND NATIONALIST PARTY. REMOVE THE ALL SHONAS FROM YOUR BELIEF. IT DIVISIVE AND UNTRUE.. WE ALL HAVE SHONA RELATIVES OF ONE SORT OR ANOTHER..
NAME THE PARTY:MATABELELAND NATIONALIST PARTY. REMOVE THE ALL SHONAS FROM YOUR BELIEF. IT DIVISIVE AND UNTRUE.. WE ALL HAVE SHONA RELATIVES OF ONE SORT OR ANOTHER..
Kumhata kwake stupid Ndebele
Kumhata kwake stupid Ndebele
Its true, there is marginalization of the people in Matebeleland. This is a tactic that Zanu pf has always used. Same could be said of the people of Chipinge when they always voted Zanu Ndonga. How is forming a political party on tribal lines going to address this issue? Dr Joshua Nkomo appealed to every Zimbabwean across the tribal lines and l dare challenge anyone who says Zapu was a Ndebele party. This is where we draw the line. It is no secret that Mugabe massacred people during the Gukurahundi era. It is the same atrocities being committed to ordinary Zimbabweans today. It is naive of Moses to say all Shonas are guilty of Mugabe’s sins. Mugabe and his gang whom we all know are guilty of these charges. Some of these people are still living and its well documented. Lets not lose sight of the fight we are in; to dislodge Mugabe. I would have not had a problem if Moses had formed his party without mentioning the tribes but thats who he is. It is misguided and doomed to fail. Message should appeal to everyone. Taka buritsirwa zvinhu mudzimba neku bhombera dzimba nekusupporta Zapu. We lost properties and livelihood because we supported Zapu. We were ardent supporters until the unity agreement.
Its true, there is marginalization of the people in Matebeleland. This is a tactic that Zanu pf has always used. Same could be said of the people of Chipinge when they always voted Zanu Ndonga. How is forming a political party on tribal lines going to address this issue? Dr Joshua Nkomo appealed to every Zimbabwean across the tribal lines and l dare challenge anyone who says Zapu was a Ndebele party. This is where we draw the line. It is no secret that Mugabe massacred people during the Gukurahundi era. It is the same atrocities being committed to ordinary Zimbabweans today. It is naive of Moses to say all Shonas are guilty of Mugabe’s sins. Mugabe and his gang whom we all know are guilty of these charges. Some of these people are still living and its well documented. Lets not lose sight of the fight we are in; to dislodge Mugabe. I would have not had a problem if Moses had formed his party without mentioning the tribes but thats who he is. It is misguided and doomed to fail. Message should appeal to everyone. Taka buritsirwa zvinhu mudzimba neku bhombera dzimba nekusupporta Zapu. We lost properties and livelihood because we supported Zapu. We were ardent supporters until the unity agreement.
Can people say he is lying that Shona people don’t stand with him when he has problems. The truth is apart from forming a Ndebele party everything he has said is true. Help me out Shona people, How come come you make up the majority of students in Nust, hillside teacher’s colleges, United college of education, student nurses in mpilo and central, managers, police , passport offices, government buildings around Bulawayo .what about the children born in Bulawayo? I want you shonas to explain this. My view is that people like mzila feel shonas have never stood up for Ndebele suffering as long they are benefiting . He wants people born in Bulawayo to make up the majority of students at nust and all educational institutions in Matabele land. Is that too much to ask.
Can people say he is lying that Shona people don’t stand with him when he has problems. The truth is apart from forming a Ndebele party everything he has said is true. Help me out Shona people, How come come you make up the majority of students in Nust, hillside teacher’s colleges, United college of education, student nurses in mpilo and central, managers, police , passport offices, government buildings around Bulawayo .what about the children born in Bulawayo? I want you shonas to explain this. My view is that people like mzila feel shonas have never stood up for Ndebele suffering as long they are benefiting . He wants people born in Bulawayo to make up the majority of students at nust and all educational institutions in Matabele land. Is that too much to ask.
So he also saying every ndebele speaking is also guilty of the historical dzviti massacres of shonas. Over 300000 of them plus the looting???
So he also saying every ndebele speaking is also guilty of the historical dzviti massacres of shonas. Over 300000 of them plus the looting???
this idiot aint know that once upon a time Ndebele’s killed shona’s
This man thinks exactly like Mugabe. These divisive characters are dangerous as history will tell of Hitler’s mentality. No Ndebele person will deny Gugurahundi and the marginalization of the people from Matebeleland, but to paint a whole people with the same brush is quite extreme.
This man thinks exactly like Mugabe. These divisive characters are dangerous as history will tell of Hitler’s mentality. No Ndebele person will deny Gugurahundi and the marginalization of the people from Matebeleland, but to paint a whole people with the same brush is quite extreme.
When people allow such leaders amongst them and join the party, should they then complain that ndebeles cannot be president. forward leaders that have national isuues at heart. This Mzila only wants to lead ndebeles. No shonas. how dumb can one get? Even your own fellow tribesmen can see this does not lead to Canaan
When people allow such leaders amongst them and join the party, should they then complain that ndebeles cannot be president. forward leaders that have national isuues at heart. This Mzila only wants to lead ndebeles. No shonas. how dumb can one get? Even your own fellow tribesmen can see this does not lead to Canaan
Ibenzi chairo lihlanya leli
Ibenzi chairo lihlanya leli
NONSENSE
NONSENSE
Hoho hiiii. Inoperera payatangira party yacho.kkkkkkkkkkkkk
Hoho hiiii. Inoperera payatangira party yacho.kkkkkkkkkkkkk
Shona imbecile you can’t even spell the word “waste” !
Shona imbecile you can’t even spell the word “waste” !
Parties formed under the influence of misguided emotions are a worst of time.
Parties formed under the influence of misguided emotions are a worst of time.
This kind of people are not wanted in any region/ country, Matebeleland has got better national/ regional leaders than this one.
This kind of people are not wanted in any region/ country, Matebeleland has got better national/ regional leaders than this one.
So in the unlikely event of this man ever coming to power, ALL the Shonas would be wiped out. This is a dangerous man. Qhaphela!
So in the unlikely event of this man ever coming to power, ALL the Shonas would be wiped out. This is a dangerous man. Qhaphela!
So this party is for Matebeleland kodwa hini?
So this party is for Matebeleland kodwa hini?