Uebert Angel: I am worth $60million
Wicknell Chivayo: I am worth $200million
Uebert Angel: “Everyone who criticises President Mugabe is poor”
Wicknell Chivayo: “People who attack the President are miserable.”
The ZIFA sponsorship gaffe which began last week, has led to humiliated donor Wicknell Chivayo being not only slammed, but also paired with controversial preacher, Uebert Angel.
The two were labelled narcissists, meaning, people who define themselves by things(material possessions) around them. Narcissism is defined as “excessive interest in or admiration of oneself and one’s physical appearance.” Other definitions say it is “extreme selfishness, with a grandiose view of one’s own talents and a craving for admiration, as characterizing a personality type.
PSYCHOANALYSIS- self-centredness arising from failure to distinguish the self from external objects, either in very young babies or as a feature of mental disorder”.
Uebert Angel is on record bragging that he is worth $60million, with Chivayo boasting of his $200million tender said “wealth.”
The development comes after Angel (real name Mudzanire, altered when he was listed for academic fraud)’s wife, was seen showing off a $US400 000 Lamborghini sports car bought as a Valentines present, by the husband: PICTURE –
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The Financial Gazette’s Online Editor, Paul Nyakazeya (PN), spoke to Angel from his base in England on these issues.
PN: I will cut to the chase. I know you have a well-documented portfolio of businesses globally but, how much are you really worth?
UA: If you want to know my value, I would ask: How much time do you have? Given that you don’t have much time, I will give you the short version and here it is: You can’t put a value on something already paid for. Jesus paid for me so do the mathematics.
PN: You have a media blackout policy and you do not respond to the media. Why is that?
UA: Never abuse your right to question; the fact that someone makes accusations or makes allegations against me does not mean I owe them an answer no matter how well-intentioned they, as an enquirer, may be. The privilege of a real open dialogue springs from a real genuine relationship.
PN: In as much as you say you have a media blackout policy, why is it that you are always in the news headlines yet you say you do not speak to the media?
UA: We are more concerned about our vision and mission, whereas others are more concerned about our day-to-day lives than they are about our mission and vision. Thus they are fixated on the life of Uebert Angel yet Uebert Angel is fixated on the life of Christ.
PN: You say a lot of wrong things have been written about you, how do you deal with bad publicity?
UA: I personally love bad publicity because to me it’s part of our charitable exercises. We consider it part of our Good News Aid charity arm. You need to understand that some rogue journalists can never put food on the table until they invent and sell a bad story about Uebert Angel, so we are helping a few journalists feed their families. It’s all charity.
PN: Uebert Angel is known as a very public figure yet most would say you are an enigma. Would it be right to say you are an enigma?
UA: The rationale is I have never found a companion that is so companionable as solitude. It is in those moments of solitude that I can be intimate with the divine, the world we live in is starved for solitude, silence and privacy.
PN: So are you saying you want to be alone?
UA: You missed a profound point. I never said I want to be alone. All I said is I want to be alone with God. Therein lies all the difference, because with him I am a crowd.
UA: We have semi-autonomous chapters across the world with pastors who follow the Good News vision. This has allowed for growth all over the world. The Good News message is gaining traction because its scope is built on the very basic, but fundamental message found in the word of God that empowers people to realise their God given potential to prosper. The Good News message breaks the yoke of poverty and it sets free all those who believe and follow the precepts of Jesus Christ.
PN: Around the world, you were known as the leader of the modern-day prophetic movement, but now you are being referred to as the Good News man, a leader of the Good News revolution, why the shift?
UA: In the Perpetual Calendar of Inspiration by Vera Nazarian she says “In the kingdom of glass everything is transparent, and there is no place to hide a dark heart”. God awakened me to the fact that perfection eludes all mankind, and that birthed in me a desire to embrace the Good News of God’s grace. Come to think of it that’s the fundamental difference between Christianity and all the other religions, that word (is) grace.
PN: You mentioned the word grace. You said it is what makes Christianity different. Could you expound a little more on that?
UA: During a British conference on comparative religions, experts from around the world were discussing whether any one belief was unique to the Christian faith. They began eliminating possibilities. Incarnation? Other religions had different versions of gods appearing in human form. Resurrection? Again, other religious had accounts of return from death.
The debate went on for some time, until C.S. Lewis wandered into the room. “What’s the rumpus about?” he asked, and heard in reply that his colleagues were discussing Christianity’s unique contribution among world religions. In his forthright manner, Lewis responded, “Oh, that’s easy. It’s grace.”
PN: We have heard what CS Lewis argued, but what is your definition of grace?
UA: Religion says because I am flawed I am unacceptable and grace says though I am flawed I am acceptable. Now you have my definition.
I want to be known or remembered in the same vein that Charles H Spurgeon, described John Bunyan.
I want to be known or remembered in the same vein that Charles H Spurgeon, described John Bunyan.
PN: Ok but what is the difference between grace, mercy, and love? Are they the same thing?
UA: It’s facile, but let me simplify it even further using a judiciary example or precedent. If you commit a serious crime and you are before a judge and the jury finds you guilty and the judge says you are forgiven go home, you are free. That’s mercy. But love goes further in that the same judge tells you to go home and buys you a mansion; you are not only free but the judge buys you a mansion as if your crime is being rewarded. However, when it comes to grace, the jury finds you guilty and you are sentenced to death but no sentence is removed. You see, grace does not remove the sentence; in fact it intensifies it. But it gives you the mansion then the judge himself stands up and confirms that the sentence still stands and goes and takes the death sentence on your behalf and you walk free. Now that is grace. That is why we call it the Good News (Euagellion). It is almost too good to be true.
PN: The Good News revolution has gained traction the world over, we have read you preaching to the poverty stricken, but your critics have picked on instances such as your interacting with celebrities in Hollywood, and spoken against that. So the question is: Who is the real target of this Good News?
UA: I can indubitably say on the authority of the inherent word of God (that) anyone who is turned off by this Euagellion, the Good News of God’s grace, is not ready for heaven. Good News is not homogenous but heterogenous; it accommodates all, no matter what shape or size you are. It is a one size fit all message!
PN: As mentioned earlier, there are a handful of critics your people say oppose your every move. How do you handle that criticism and opposition?
UA: The servant is not higher than his master. If they opposed the master, they will oppose his servant. It is clear in the biblical text that the devil seeks to hit the shepherd in order to scatter the flock. So when you see people opposing the leader, their main target is to scatter the sheep and therein lies the truth about who their boss is. That is why I don’t respond or waste my words on people who deserve my silence. God acts but the devil reacts so answering makes me the servant of the latter when I am of the former.
PN: Your character has been besmirched in some sections of the media not only in Zimbabwe yet the church is still reportedly growing and spreading its wings to different countries.
UA: I have the media to thank this for. They assassinate my reputation but you see reputation is what people say about you but integrity is what God says about you and you see God anoints integrity and not reputation. Furthermore, the beauty of the Good News is that, it is not about me; it’s all about Jesus Christ. Jesus said if I be lifted up, I draw men unto me. Then he said, I will build my church and the gates of hell will not prevail. Here at the Good News Church we are not lifting ourselves up. It is Christ who has built the Church through his grace and the gates of hell will not prevail. You can fight Angel but you cannot defeat the grace upon him.
PN: Do you have anything that you regret doing in your life and ministry?
UA: Did I have that effect on you, that you thought I was Jesus all this while? I am an imperfect servant of a perfect master so do the math. Of cause I have regrets, show me a man of God who says I have no regrets and I will show you a liar who is headed for hell.
PN: Give us an example of something you regret?
UA: I became too successful in public and a failure in private. I have raised a lot of people to the knowledge of Christ. Some became millionaires, by the grace of God. I have raised a whole range of people from mediocrity to changing social and economic stratification. I raised men of God, and in that same vein I also let some people down, prime among those is my immediate family. I realised that crowds come and crowds go. Thus I decided to spend more time with my family and I advise every man of God to do the same. It starts from the house before it goes to the church but I had my priorities mixed up but that is the Angel of yesteryears. I am still not perfect but I am perfectly me.
PN: How would you like to be remembered?
UA: I want to be known or remembered in the same vein that Charles H Spurgeon, described John Bunyan. He said of him, “If you cut him, he’d bleed Scripture.” Let it be known of Uebert Angel that when you cut him, he bleeds Good News.
PN: What is your greatest accomplishment so far?
UA: My greatest accomplishment is to be myself in a world that is constantly trying to make you somebody else.
PN: We have seen you with celebrities and business tycoons in the business world but one in particular is what our readers want to know how you met him: Nat Rothschild, whose family is believed to control world economies?
UA: I think repeating oneself is a clear sign of old age. I am young and so I won’t repeat myself because you dealt with this in your last publication. By so saying, I think the interview is over. Thank you for having me.
The Financial Gazette’s Online Editor, Paul Nyakazeya (PN), spoke to Angel from his base in England on these issues.
PN: I will cut to the chase. I know you have a well-documented portfolio of businesses globally but, how much are you really worth?
UA: If you want to know my value, I would ask: How much time do you have? Given that you don’t have much time, I will give you the short version and here it is: You can’t put a value on something already paid for. Jesus paid for me so do the mathematics.
PN: You have a media blackout policy and you do not respond to the media. Why is that?
UA: Never abuse your right to question; the fact that someone makes accusations or makes allegations against me does not mean I owe them an answer no matter how well-intentioned they, as an enquirer, may be. The privilege of a real open dialogue springs from a real genuine relationship.
PN: In as much as you say you have a media blackout policy, why is it that you are always in the news headlines yet you say you do not speak to the media?
UA: We are more concerned about our vision and mission, whereas others are more concerned about our day-to-day lives than they are about our mission and vision. Thus they are fixated on the life of Uebert Angel yet Uebert Angel is fixated on the life of Christ.
PN: You say a lot of wrong things have been written about you, how do you deal with bad publicity?
UA: I personally love bad publicity because to me it’s part of our charitable exercises. We consider it part of our Good News Aid charity arm. You need to understand that some rogue journalists can never put food on the table until they invent and sell a bad story about Uebert Angel, so we are helping a few journalists feed their families. It’s all charity.
PN: Uebert Angel is known as a very public figure yet most would say you are an enigma. Would it be right to say you are an enigma?
UA: The rationale is I have never found a companion that is so companionable as solitude. It is in those moments of solitude that I can be intimate with the divine, the world we live in is starved for solitude, silence and privacy.
PN: So are you saying you want to be alone?
UA: You missed a profound point. I never said I want to be alone. All I said is I want to be alone with God. Therein lies all the difference, because with him I am a crowd.
UA: We have semi-autonomous chapters across the world with pastors who follow the Good News vision. This has allowed for growth all over the world. The Good News message is gaining traction because its scope is built on the very basic, but fundamental message found in the word of God that empowers people to realise their God given potential to prosper. The Good News message breaks the yoke of poverty and it sets free all those who believe and follow the precepts of Jesus Christ.
PN: Around the world, you were known as the leader of the modern-day prophetic movement, but now you are being referred to as the Good News man, a leader of the Good News revolution, why the shift?
UA: In the Perpetual Calendar of Inspiration by Vera Nazarian she says “In the kingdom of glass everything is transparent, and there is no place to hide a dark heart”. God awakened me to the fact that perfection eludes all mankind, and that birthed in me a desire to embrace the Good News of God’s grace. Come to think of it that’s the fundamental difference between Christianity and all the other religions, that word (is) grace.
PN: You mentioned the word grace. You said it is what makes Christianity different. Could you expound a little more on that?
UA: During a British conference on comparative religions, experts from around the world were discussing whether any one belief was unique to the Christian faith. They began eliminating possibilities. Incarnation? Other religions had different versions of gods appearing in human form. Resurrection? Again, other religious had accounts of return from death.
The debate went on for some time, until C.S. Lewis wandered into the room. “What’s the rumpus about?” he asked, and heard in reply that his colleagues were discussing Christianity’s unique contribution among world religions. In his forthright manner, Lewis responded, “Oh, that’s easy. It’s grace.”
PN: We have heard what CS Lewis argued, but what is your definition of grace?
UA: Religion says because I am flawed I am unacceptable and grace says though I am flawed I am acceptable. Now you have my definition.
I want to be known or remembered in the same vein that Charles H Spurgeon, described John Bunyan.
I want to be known or remembered in the same vein that Charles H Spurgeon, described John Bunyan.
PN: Ok but what is the difference between grace, mercy, and love? Are they the same thing?
UA: It’s facile, but let me simplify it even further using a judiciary example or precedent. If you commit a serious crime and you are before a judge and the jury finds you guilty and the judge says you are forgiven go home, you are free. That’s mercy. But love goes further in that the same judge tells you to go home and buys you a mansion; you are not only free but the judge buys you a mansion as if your crime is being rewarded. However, when it comes to grace, the jury finds you guilty and you are sentenced to death but no sentence is removed. You see, grace does not remove the sentence; in fact it intensifies it. But it gives you the mansion then the judge himself stands up and confirms that the sentence still stands and goes and takes the death sentence on your behalf and you walk free. Now that is grace. That is why we call it the Good News (Euagellion). It is almost too good to be true.
PN: The Good News revolution has gained traction the world over, we have read you preaching to the poverty stricken, but your critics have picked on instances such as your interacting with celebrities in Hollywood, and spoken against that. So the question is: Who is the real target of this Good News?
UA: I can indubitably say on the authority of the inherent word of God (that) anyone who is turned off by this Euagellion, the Good News of God’s grace, is not ready for heaven. Good News is not homogenous but heterogenous; it accommodates all, no matter what shape or size you are. It is a one size fit all message!
PN: As mentioned earlier, there are a handful of critics your people say oppose your every move. How do you handle that criticism and opposition?
UA: The servant is not higher than his master. If they opposed the master, they will oppose his servant. It is clear in the biblical text that the devil seeks to hit the shepherd in order to scatter the flock. So when you see people opposing the leader, their main target is to scatter the sheep and therein lies the truth about who their boss is. That is why I don’t respond or waste my words on people who deserve my silence. God acts but the devil reacts so answering makes me the servant of the latter when I am of the former.
PN: Your character has been besmirched in some sections of the media not only in Zimbabwe yet the church is still reportedly growing and spreading its wings to different countries.
UA: I have the media to thank this for. They assassinate my reputation but you see reputation is what people say about you but integrity is what God says about you and you see God anoints integrity and not reputation. Furthermore, the beauty of the Good News is that, it is not about me; it’s all about Jesus Christ. Jesus said if I be lifted up, I draw men unto me. Then he said, I will build my church and the gates of hell will not prevail. Here at the Good News Church we are not lifting ourselves up. It is Christ who has built the Church through his grace and the gates of hell will not prevail. You can fight Angel but you cannot defeat the grace upon him.
PN: Do you have anything that you regret doing in your life and ministry?
UA: Did I have that effect on you, that you thought I was Jesus all this while? I am an imperfect servant of a perfect master so do the math. Of cause I have regrets, show me a man of God who says I have no regrets and I will show you a liar who is headed for hell.
PN: Give us an example of something you regret?
UA: I became too successful in public and a failure in private. I have raised a lot of people to the knowledge of Christ. Some became millionaires, by the grace of God. I have raised a whole range of people from mediocrity to changing social and economic stratification. I raised men of God, and in that same vein I also let some people down, prime among those is my immediate family. I realised that crowds come and crowds go. Thus I decided to spend more time with my family and I advise every man of God to do the same. It starts from the house before it goes to the church but I had my priorities mixed up but that is the Angel of yesteryears. I am still not perfect but I am perfectly me.
PN: How would you like to be remembered?
UA: I want to be known or remembered in the same vein that Charles H Spurgeon, described John Bunyan. He said of him, “If you cut him, he’d bleed Scripture.” Let it be known of Uebert Angel that when you cut him, he bleeds Good News.
PN: What is your greatest accomplishment so far?
UA: My greatest accomplishment is to be myself in a world that is constantly trying to make you somebody else.
PN: We have seen you with celebrities and business tycoons in the business world but one in particular is what our readers want to know how you met him: Nat Rothschild, whose family is believed to control world economies?
UA: I think repeating oneself is a clear sign of old age. I am young and so I won’t repeat myself because you dealt with this in your last publication. By so saying, I think the interview is over. Thank you for having me.