By Own Correspondent| Independent legislator for Norton Temba Mliswa has described as useless Justice minister Ziyambi Ziyambi adding that he was contributing immensely to the collapse of the justice system in the country.
Mliswa took a dig at Ziyambi in parliament Wednesday where he said the Justice minister was not an exemplary individual who was in the habit of protecting murderers.
He said:
You are killing the justice system. Ndimi murikuprotector ma murderer. Ziyambi futi une Human Rights Report unonzi unofanira kuinvestigetwa iwewe. We are intimidated every day. I need to finish. He is a useless Minister of Justice. Shumba, you are in Human Rights Commission to be investigated on Hurungwe issues. You know that. Ndinokuregerera. You are mentioned in the Human Rights Commission Report to be investigated as Minister of Justice. You are not exemplary
Below is the full text of Mliswa’s statement during Wednesday’s parliamentary proceedings:
HON. T. MLISWA: I rise on a point of privilege Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, a very good afternoon to you.
THE HON. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Good afternoon.
HON. MLISWA: Madam Speaker, I rise to register my displeasure and to equally seek guidance from you as the Chair on how far Members of Parliament can go in enjoying the privileges and immunities that are there. The reason why I am saying so is that I am under threat by Hon. Nduna after he confessed that he has killed many people, whilst he has killed many people, he equally has threatened to kill me.
So, I want to understand whether this is how Parliament and Parliamentarians must act. My life is under threat, not only is it under threat – [AN HON. MEMBER: Wawakatuka ndiani? ] – [AN HON. MEMBER: Nyarara iwe.] – Madam Speaker, you know who is making noise, can you be firm…
THE HON. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Order, order! Have you finished Hon. Mliswa?
HON. MLISWA: Madam Speaker – [HON. MEMBERS: Inaudible interjections] – Muchataura zvenyu, nenyaya dzenyu dzekudanana nevakadzi vepa Parliament – [HON. MEMBERS: Inaudible interjections.]
THE HON. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Hon. Mliswa, go ahead. Order, Order, Hon. Mliswa, may you approach the Chair.
Hon. Mliswa approached the Chair.
HON. MLISWA: Thank you Madam Speaker. The remarks by Hon. Nduna of killing people in a country which is under scrutiny for violence, especially allegations that there are ex-defence forces people who were in civilians who were armed who killed people. Is it not the likes of Hon. Nduna because the police and the army are exonerated – [HON. MEMBERS: Inaudible interjections.]
HON. NDUNA: I object. Ndichitukwa here.
HON. T. MLISWA: The President of the Republic of Zimbabwe, Hon. Emmerson Mnangagwa is busy going around the world defending these issues which have caused disharmony and disunity in the country and we have an Hon. Member – the police and the army has been accused yet the answer lies in Hon. Nduna who has said that he has killed people.
Madam Speaker Ma’am, we have had a lot of people killed in this country and the state security agents have been accused, myet the answer is very clear. Itai Dzamara is one of them who went missing and we now do not know whether he was killed by Hon. Nduna or not – [HON. MEMBERS: Inaudible interjections.]
THE HON DEPUTY SPEAKER: Hon. Mliswa, may you approach the Chair.
Hon. Mliswa having approached the Chair.
HON. T. MLISWA: Parliament of Zimbabwe is a sacred institution. Parliament of Zimbabwe cannot have murderers in it. It is important…
THE HON. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Hon. Mliswa I have heard your concerns. May I make a ruling please. You are now debating.
HON. T. MLISWA: I am talking about an issue which is of my concern and my family in terms of life. You have not been threatened. I have been threatened of being killed. I have been threatened of being killed by Hon. Nduna and I am worried looking at him that the danger that is on me is so much. This is not a joke. We cannot take it as a joke. We come to Parliament to represent people and not to be threatened by people. We do not come here to be threatened by people.
This is an issue you must take this seriously because it has a lot to do with the democracy of the people of Zimbabwe and freedom of association. This is an issue that you must listen to and make a ruling in the end.
THE HON. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Hon. Mliswa, yesterday you were here but you did not state your case.
HON. T. MLISWA: I was not here yesterday. I can raise a point of privilege anytime.
THE HON. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Is it because of the cameras?
HON. T. MLISWA: I am addressing the issue of being threatened, what more do you want me to address? It cannot be sensitive. This Parliament has nothing to do with Party. We do not want you, Madam Speaker to be supporting your Party members. We might as well turn it into a ZANU PF Parliament. Listen to me I have an issue which affected me and I must discuss it. I can raise an issue of privilege anytime.
There must be a Privileges Committee set up to investigate that. The evidence is there, unlike our Committee where the evidence is in the paper. The evidence is on video – Hon Nduna said it. I want a Privileges Committee set up to investigate that for the integrity of Parliament.
THE HON. DEPUTY SPEAKER: May you approach the Chair.
HON. T. MLISWA: I have been approaching the Chair. You cannot whip me. You cannot keep whipping me. I have been approaching the Chair how many times Madam Speaker? Let me finish and then you can make a ruling. If you want to chuck me out, you can chuck me out but the issue will not end. I will limit myself to the issues. How many times have I been there? Our lives are under threat by that man. He is still in Parliament and you allow him to be in Parliament. He is a murderer. You kill people you do not know. Vave kukumukira manje vanhu vacho wakutaura chokwadi wega. Wazviona wave kurotomoka. Munhu haauraiwe, munhu haauraiwe. Wakupenga manje. Mari dzeZinara uchiba usingabhadhare.
Madam Speaker, you tell me the same thing when I come there that I must not talk about it. That is what you said to me. I must speak. These are serious issues. We are being threatened. He is constantly threatening anyone. Gun trotting in Chegutu, you also did the same with guns.
Hon. Nduna having stood up.
Do not go away you murderer, you murderer come back, come back you murderer. You are a murderer come back. Self confessed murderer.
THE MINISTER OF JUSTICE, LEGAL AND PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (HON. ZIYAMBI): I think you are now losing the plot. This is no longer an honourable House.
HON. T. MLISWA: You are killing the justice system. Ndimi murikuprotector ma murderer. Ziyambi futi une Human Rights Report unonzi unofanira kuinvestigetwa iwewe. We are intimidated every day. I need to finish. He is a useless Minister of Justice. Shumba, you are in Human Rights Commission to be investigated on Hurungwe issues. You know that. Ndinokuregerera. You are mentioned in the Human Rights Commission Report to be investigated as Minister of Justice. You are not exemplary.
THE HON. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Hon. Mliswa, leave the House.
HON. T. MLISWA: Uda kuita chii? – [HON. MEMBERS: Inaudible interjections.] – Uku kuMash West hausi kutonga, unotonga chii?Iwe wakauraya Vanhu kuHurungwe – [HON. MEMBERS: Inaudible interjections.] –You are a useless Chairman – [HON. MEMBERS: Inaudible interjections.