HON. MATEWU: It is a privilege.  Chief Whip, can you allow me to talk please? 

During the time that we were planting trees, as we approached the police to talk to them they started to fire bullets.  This put the lives of the people and the children at risk.  This was at a clinic where you have pregnant women.  The police fired bullets and tear gas and some of the people who were there were actually people with chronic diseases.  Also present was our president, His Excellency president Chamisa – [HON. MEMBERS:  Inaudible interjections.]-

Madam Speaker, we need to ensure that State apparatus do not hinder us.

HON. CHINOTIMBA:  Madam Speaker, on a point of order [HON. MEMBERS:  Inaudible interjections.]-

HON. MATEWU:  Madam Speaker, we need the State to protect us to ensure that we are protected when we do our constitutional duties.  Thank you – [HON. MEMBERS:  He must withdraw that.]-  

THE HON. DEPUTY SPEAKER:  Hon. Member, you must withdraw where you said His Excellency Hon. Chamisa – [HON. MEMBERS:  Withdraw.]-  Chamisa is the president of your party and not the country, so you cannot say His Excellency – [HON. MEMBERS:  Inaudible interjections.]-

HON. MATEWU:  Madam Speaker, if you read your dictionary ‘excellency’ means executive powers.

THE HON. DEPUTY SPEAKER:  You must withdraw that.

HON. MATEWU:  He has executive powers in MDC.

THE HON. DEPUTY SPEAKER:  You must withdraw that, it is not allowed.

HON. MATEWU:  I cannot withdraw because I am saying what the executive – [HON. MEMBERS:  Inaudible interjections.]-

THE HON. DEPUTY SPEAKER:  You must withdraw that, it is not allowed.  You cannot say His Excellency president Chamisa in this Parliament – [HON. MEMBERS:  Inaudible interjections.] –  Hon. Member, it is very wrong for you to say that.  Please withdraw.  We cannot have two His Excellencies – never, ever! – [HON. MEMBERS:  Inaudible interjections.] – This Parliament cannot have two His Excellencies.  Hon. Members, please approach the Chair.  Hon. Member please, may you take your seat. The Hon. Member must go out since he has refused to withdraw his statement. –[HON. MEMBERS: Inaudible interjections]-

          HON. T. MLISWA: Madam Speaker, I think it is very important that we respect the laws of this country and titles. I will go to Google and talk about what His Excellency means. It is a high official of the State especially Ambassadors. So, I think it is wrong to refer to Cde. Chamisa as Head of State. We must know that we are learned and it is wrong for us to do that. We cannot continue because he is not Head of State neither is he an Ambassador. That is the meaning and it does not change. You have your own vocabulary and your own dictionary but not the dictionary of the world – it does not recognise Chamisa because he is not Head of State. For now, he is not Head of State. He can be Head of State and you can create your own Parliament at Harvest House and not here. –[HON. MEMBERS: Inaudible interjections]-

          Some Hon. Members having stood up.

          THE HON. DEPUTY SPEAKER: No more points of privilege and points of order. We are wasting time. I have ruled, please take your seats.

          HON. CHIKWINYA: Madam Speaker, with all due respect – Hon. Mavetera referred to the First Lady as Her Excellency. You said it is unparliamentary and so she must also withdraw.

          THE HON. DEPUTY SPEAKER: I did not say that and I did not talk to you.

          HON. CHIKWINYA: You have said Hon. Mavetera…

          THE HON. DEPUTY SPEAKER: I did not talk to you and I did not say that. Please may you take your seat? Do not put words into my mouth.

          HON. CHIKWINYA: Hon. Speaker, with all due respect, you have dismissed Hon. Matewu for using unparliamentary language, but Hon. Mavetera also used the same language.

          THE HON. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Take your seat.

          HON. CHIKWINYA: She is not denying it. It must be a fair Parliament. I am using your own judgment and your own ruling. She is not denying it.

          THE HON. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Take your seat, no more point of order.

          HON. CHIKWINYA: Hon. Speaker, I am not being disrespectful, I am simply using your own words.

          THE HON. DEPUTY SPEAKER: You are because you are refusing what I am ordering you to do.

          HON. CHIKWINYA: I am simply using your own judgement Madam Speaker. Can you be fair to all of us? Is this now a ZANU PF Parliament?

          THE HON. DEPUTY SPEAKER: No more points of order please! May you take your seats? – [HON. MEMBERS: Inaudible interjections]-